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c++ - treating memory returned by operator new(sizeof(T) * N) as an array

In C one can allocate dynamic arrays using malloc(sizeof(T) * N) and then use pointer arithmetic to get elements at i offset in this dynamic array.

In C++ one can do similar using operator new() in the same way as malloc() and then placement new (for an example one can see solution for item 13 in a book "Exceptional C++: 47 engineering puzzles, programming problems, and solutions" by Herb Sutter). If you don't have one, the summary of the solution for this question would be:

T* storage = operator new(sizeof(T)*size);

// insert element    
T* p = storage + i;
new (p) T(element);

// get element
T* element = storage[i];

For me this looked legit since I'm asking for a chunk of memory with enough memory to hold N aligned elements of size = sizeof(T). Since sizeof(T) should return a size of element which is aligned, and they are laid one after another in a chunk of memory, using pointer arithmetic is OK here.

However I was then pointed to links like: http://eel.is/c++draft/expr.add#4 or http://eel.is/c++draft/intro.object#def:object and claiming that in C++ operator new() does not return an array object, so pointer arithmetic over what it has returned and using it as an array is undefined behavior as opposed to ANSI C.

I'm not this good at such low level stuff and I'm really trying to understand by reading this: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/pa-dalign/ or this: http://jrruethe.github.io/blog/2015/08/23/placement-new/ but I still fail to understand if Sutter was just plain wrong?

I do understand that alignas make sense in constructions such as:

alignas(double) char array[sizeof(double)];

(c) http://georgeflanagin.com/alignas.php

If array appears to be not in a boundary of double (perhaps following char in a structure ran at 2-byte reading processor).

But this is different - I've requested memory from the heap/free storage especially requested operator new to return memory which will hold elements aligned to sizeof(T).

To summarize in case this was TL;DR:

  • Is it possible to use malloc() for dynamic arrays in C++?
  • Is it possible to use operator new() and placement new for dynamic arrays in older C++ which has no alignas keyword?
  • Is pointer arithmetic undefined behavior when used over memory returned by operator new()?
  • Is Sutter advising code which might break on some antique machine?

Sorry if this is dumb.

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The issue of pointer arithmetic on allocated memory, as in your example:

T* storage = static_cast<T*>(operator new(sizeof(T)*size));
// ...
T* p = storage + i;  // precondition: 0 <= i < size
new (p) T(element);

being technically undefined behaviour has been known for a long time. It implies that std::vector can't be implemented with well-defined behaviour purely as a library, but requires additional guarantees from the implementation beyond those found in the standard.

It was definitely not the intention of the standards committee to make std::vector unimplementable. Sutter is, of course, right that such code is intended to be well-defined. The wording of the standard needs to reflect that.

P0593 is a proposal that, if accepted into the standard, may be able to solve this problem. In the meantime, it is fine to keep writing code like the above; no major compiler will treat it as UB.

Edit: As pointed out in the comments, I should have stated that when I said storage + i will be well-defined under P0593, I was assuming that the elements storage[0], storage[1], ..., storage[i-1] have already been constructed. Although I'm not sure I understand P0593 well enough to conclude that it wouldn't also cover the case where those elements hadn't already been constructed.


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